Emerson Eld Flute Serial Numbers
Hello, I am new to this forum and was hoping to get information on a student flute for my daughter. She is 5th grade beginner on the flute. We have been renting a flute, and I decided to save the money and buy her one. I got her a E.L.
Deford flute (closed holes) with the serial # 12665. It seems to be in great shape with pads looking as though they are almost new or newly replaced.I have tried to get information on the the web with limited results. I seem to find mixed reviews on weather this is an ok flute or not. I know it is not of high quality, and I don't want to pay big money yet as she is just starting, and as some kids change their minds as to weather play an insturment or not. Can someone give me more information on this instrument and what is a resonable price to pay for one.
Also can you give me tips on how I might polish it up and clean/sanitize it as it is secondhand.Any help is greatly appreciated! Emerson Deford is a respected flute maker, but he made/makes quite a wide variety of instruments in a variety of qualities. He has also founded and sold a number of different flute companies bearing versions of his name.
The flute you have is a student line instrument worth (in my area of the world) anywhere from $100-300 depending on the condition. If it is in good condition, it should be fine for your student. If the instrument needs cleaning, you can wash the head joint (part you blow in to) with soap and water.
You can wipe the head joint with rubbing alcohol to disinfect it. I would also suggest swabbing the inside. You can purchase chemicals for doing this through a music store, but most people have a bottle of rubbing alcohol around the house. Cleaning the body and foot joint is a different story.
If the body is really dirty, you should take it to a tech to have him/her take the keys off and clean the body and keys. If it isn’t too bad you can carefully clean the body with rubbing alcohol. If it needs polishing you can use a mild silver polish, but whatever you do, don’t get the cleaning agents on the pads and corks.
I use white (new) diaper flannel purchased at a fabric store as a polishing and cleaning cloth. At $3.00 a yard you can do a lot of cleaning.
It is soft and won’t scratch the finish. It is also absorbent.go figure. Oh yea, you're wiping and NOT dunking the keys and body in any of these cleaners. Dampen the flannel and wipe down the instrument. Don't get it soaking wet.Matt. And don't get liquid or creamy silver polishes or cleaners anywhere near the mechanism, because it is likely to cause the pivots to rust or otherwise jam.On the mechanism all I can suggest is a simple (cotton or microfibre) cloth, perhaps damp, or occasionally an impregnated silver-polishing cloth such as Goddards.Any polishing other than that around the keys is really work for a technician.
You can do a lot of damage.A student De Ford is 'OK' for a beginner, but IMO you would have done better to buy a seond hand Yamaha. In my opinion, any silver flute, plated or otherwise, is best for a beginner. The De Ford model is as good as any until the student gets to where they need to be.I would agree that a silver plated or solid silver flute is better than the same version of the same model flute made with nickel plated body and keys. Not because of sound, but because of how slippery the nickel finish is. Nickle is also a more brittle plating than silver which makes the possibility of damaging the plating when a kid bends a key or dents the body a bit greater.
I haven't quite come to the conclusion that material makes no difference ( I'm getting closer Gordon) But I would take a silver plated Muramatsu over an Armstrong 80 (solid silver) any time. The quality of craftsmanship and the design of the instrument makes a much bigger difference than the material. Susan - welcome to the forum. I worked fro DeFord and the model you are mentioning is the old E.L.DeFord which was made between about 1968-80. These were good flutes but are not the newer scale which plays more in tune and has a better headjoint.
These morfed into the Emersom flute and since 2000, the DeFord. Your flute in perfect condition would be about $150 and in fair condition about $50. All parts are still available. You can PM (private message at the top of this page) if you need more information as I am in the flute business.
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Correct that it is a model 8 with a sterlin head and body and foot tubing. All else is silver pated. If it has a B-foot, looks good and has good pads, probably only about $400.
A C-foot would be about $300. For reference, I have a 10 (all sterling including keys) that I have at $700 in great shape. I am a dealer for the new DeFords and they are really great for the money. Similar to the Emersons he made from 1977-97 but better heads and padwork. I even have one of the Emerson L. DeFord handmade soldered hole flutes that are actually Almeidas with only about 12 ever made. Hi, i also have a question about a similar flute.
We have been gifted an Emerson flute with the ELD in script in oval. On the back is serial number D76371 and a 1 underneath. I think it is silver plated,closed hole, C foot joint.although this is just from looking at pictures to use this terminology:P My daughter has been learning flute through school for a year and this year needs to provide own.
This was my cousins purchased second hand maybe 15 years ago. My daughter told me it sounds uprising good and pads are not too bad. I know it will need a service, pad replacements etc. But before i start pricing this up. Will it be worth the costs to get a full service if needed?(if a good flute and just has a number of years on it that it has been stored then i can see the value in keeping a lovely old instrument in use ) It looks like original blue lined and Emerson named case. Anyone have an idea of the age of this flute? Or am i better off paying for a brand new student flute if a full service will cost the same?
Emerson Eld Flute Serial Numbers For Sale
Correct that it is a model 8 with a sterlin head and body and foot tubing. All else is silver pated. If it has a B-foot, looks good and has good pads, probably only about $400. A C-foot would be about $300. For reference, I have a 10 (all sterling including keys) that I have at $700 in great shape. I am a dealer for the new DeFords and they are really great for the money. Similar to the Emersons he made from 1977-97 but better heads and padwork.
Emerson Eld Flute Serial Numbers List
I even have one of the Emerson L. DeFord handmade soldered hole flutes that are actually Almeidas with only about 12 ever made.Hi Bruce,Thanks for your comment. I have just bought (Dec 2015) an EL DeFord model 10 flute brand new from an Australian Distributor (yes, this was not sold to anybody and was sitting on their old warehouse for ages). It was Model number is A52xxxx.
It's marked on the head joint and body that 'Silver head joint' and 'Silver Body' but nothing marked on the Foot. Is it still all silver including the keys as well.? I purchased it for AUD400.00. What do you think it is actually worth.?Thanks,Rasanga.